Debatecast: Frozen Hot Chocolate - Is It a Thing? | Ep. 29 [HEADPHONE WARNING]
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Kyle:We have a little bit of a debate today. Nothing political. It's just a
Ben:Kinda was political.
Caleb:I think it says a lot about who you vote for.
Kyle:Okay. That's a good point. Yeah.
Ben:Yeah.
Kyle:Shout outs? I don't think we gave any last week.
Caleb:We did not. No.
Kyle:But
Ashley:they They're the same if you're
Ben:We need to give a special shout to this episode, because this episode kinda came from this person. He didn't tell us to do it this one, but the idea.
Kyle:Yeah. Shout out to Dunkin' Donuts.
Ben:No. That's
Kyle:the other person. Dunkin' Donuts owner? No.
Caleb:Wait. Is this something from Dunkin' Donuts?
Kyle:Chester Chicken?
Caleb:It is. Since when?
Kyle:Since it was, like, May, I think. I don't know.
Ben:Let let's get the topic, then we can go in the history of it.
Ashley:I got you.
Ashley:Go ahead.
Kyle:Yeah. So so we're gonna be discussing or debating the frozen hot beef.
Ben:Do you want me to say it? Yes. The frozen hot chocolate debate. Is frozen hot chocolate an actual thing or not? I say
Caleb:yes. No.
Ben:No. Ashley? What's your opinion on
Ashley:the chocolate? Hot chocolate was invented in the early 19 seventies by a nay by a man named Steve Harrell.
Kyle:Fuck you Steve?
Ashley:Steve was an owner of an ice cream shop in Massachusetts.
Kyle:I knew where that was going. Massachusetts.
Ashley:Massachusetts. And he was looking for a way to make ice cream more chocolatey.
Kyle:Put chocolate syrup on it.
Ben:Sorry, iPhone users.
Caleb:I'm just gonna have to throw a headphone word warning on this
Kyle:phone to hold it
Caleb:all for
Ashley:you. Thinking of, you know, your frozen hot chocolates, it is very similar to the Starbucks version of a frappuccino.
Ben:So when did the frozen hot chocolate end? Because it was can we give a thing at Dunkin'? That's where it became most popular, and it they stopped calling it because of people like Kyle. There's a whole Reddit outlet
Kyle:about it. To a frozen chocolate now, which I agree with. No.
Ashley:So Dunkin' Donuts, took it on in May 31, 2011. Every day, they continue to prove that cool is better, than hot, and it introduced the frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:No. So my reasoning behind this right?
Ben:We can Ashley, can you look up the ingredients? What's the look up the ingredients of a frozen chocolate and a frozen hot chocolate.
Caleb:Also, you haven't given us your opinion yet. Frozen hot chocolate. I'll look it up. Don't worry.
Kyle:So so I
Ashley:So we'll stick with the the Dunkin' Donut version since that's who came out with it. So Dunkin' Donut's frozen hot chocolate contains chocolate milk. Hold on. I'll get I had to click into the link.
Caleb:So while they're looking that up, I will say when I was managing over at Lucy's, I did create a drink, that was called the frozen hot chocolate. And it was D Serono, a hot chocolate powder, the packet ice cream, and milk. I do regret calling it the frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:Was it heated or was it, like, room was it just like a mixed drink? It was all Okay. Ready?
Caleb:Milk, ice cream, a hot chocolate packet, and the Serrano.
Ashley:So it's got a lot of stuff in it, but it's got water, milk, liquid cane sugar, normal white sugar, water, preservatives, butter pecan flavoring swirl syrup, sweetened condensed nonfat milk.
Kyle:So just like a regular hot chocolate?
Ashley:Yes. But it's got, like, more in it than a normal hot chocolate.
Caleb:So here's my my So okay.
Ben:I got this. So hot chocolate is made with more
Caleb:You're right. You're getting interrupted again.
Kyle:It's not
Ben:the same topic, though. You can tell yourself in a second. So hot chocolate is typically made with melted chocolate resulting in more richer, thicker.
Ben:More intense
Ashley:Wow.
Ben:It's made with it's melted chocolate, which is made with more resulted in more richer, thicker, and more intense chocolatey flavor.
Kyle:So if you have so if you
Ben:can if you can make that in a frozen drink, it is a frozen hot chocolate. Because a normal chocolate drink will not be as
Kyle:No problem. Intense because it's made with fro with melted chocolate. So hot chocolate, I here's my reasoning. So a hot chocolate, in and of itself, is hot. Right?
Kyle:Mhmm. Some people would consider it to be the ingredients that makes the hot chocolate, but I consider it to be the hot factor. But once you make it cold, it is no longer a hot chocolate.
Ben:If it's room temperature, it is still a hot chocolate.
Kyle:It is a cold chocolate.
Caleb:Can I ask you a question?
Kyle:It is
Caleb:not a
Ashley:hot chocolate. If it's wait.
Ben:Give me one second. If it's room temperature.
Kyle:If it's room temperature, it would still be considered a hot chocolate. No.
Ben:Because room temperature, they are not considered hot.
Kyle:What's it gonna be? A lukewarm chocolate?
Ben:Maybe. By your theory, yes. By your theory, yes.
Kyle:But it has not been cooled or chilled.
Ashley:Hold on.
Kyle:It was still a hot chocolate added by the cool down to listen to Caleb.
Caleb:I have a question for you. Yep. Yep. And you, but since you 2 are the weird ones. No.
Caleb:We're normal. So what would you do if I said, sipping on me a frozen hot coffee?
Kyle:That's not What? This is exactly what I'm saying. What? Because iced coffee is a fucking thing.
Ben:Listen. Listen. Listen.
Ashley:So what do you want
Kyle:it to be called?
Ashley:Per the name. Chocolate?
Ben:There is no there's nothing
Kyle:It's a frozen chocolate or iced chocolate.
Ben:So you don't when you say call it coffee, you don't say hot coffee. You say it's coffee.
Ashley:Oh, no.
Kyle:You say
Caleb:hot coffee and iced coffee because it's
Ashley:2 separate things. No.
Ben:You say coffee and iced coffee. That's not the name. You don't put hot in front of coffee.
Kyle:If I
Ben:hot chocolate
Kyle:is for a dunk You
Caleb:do put hot coffee hot in front of coffee. Go to fucking Dunkin'. Go to fucking, Starbucks. It says hot coffee. It doesn't just say coffee or iced coffee.
Kyle:And if I go to Dunkin' and I say, can I get a coffee? They will ask me, is that a hot
Caleb:or iced?
Ben:Yeah. But hot chocolate's different.
Caleb:No. It's not. No. It's not.
Kyle:A hot chocolate in and of itself is a hot chocolate So because it's heated.
Ben:So so let's say
Caleb:So you're saying it's all the ingredients. Right? It's the ingredients. Yes. So what happens if I take a chocolate bar, a Hershey's chocolate bar right now, which I have, I can go and I have some milk, and I heat up this Hershey's chocolate bar and some milk, and I put them together.
Caleb:You would you classify that as a hot chocolate? Because I would.
Ben:Yes. But that's part of the ingredients, though. Because it's
Caleb:my chocolate. What happens if I freeze it? It's frozen chocolate.
Ben:Yes. But it's we got them, though.
Kyle:We got him.
Ashley:That's all for today's episode, folks. We will see you on the next one.
Caleb:Make sure you follow us.
Ashley:Oh my god. Hot chocolate.
Caleb:Oh, maybe I get her still.
Kyle:What classifies it as a hot chocolate?
Ashley:So the earliest version of hot chocolate is believed to have been made around 500 BC, in now Mexico. They would ground cocoa seeds into paste and mix it with water, corn meal, and chili peppers to make it cold for a frothy drink. The drink was spicy and bitter and was often flavored with vanilla, and that's what made it cold.
Ben:So the original hot chocolate wasn't hot. It was flavorful hot, but not temperature hot.
Kyle:It was just chocolate.
Ashley:It was chocolate, but it had chili peppers in it, which made it hot. They would add vanilla if you wanted
Caleb:it cold. Talking about a
Ashley:But that's
Caleb:chocolate. We're talking about That's
Ashley:the thing.
Caleb:We're talking about the drink.
Kyle:The drink considered the hot part with the chili paste. Yes. Yes. That was the hot part.
Caleb:We're talking about the drink.
Ashley:But I'm showing you drink. I'm showing you how the words to each person could be different. Right.
Kyle:And I But guess what? Get that.
Caleb:We live in America
Ben:Right.
Caleb:Where hot chocolate to us is not spicy hot. No. No. No.
Ben:It's 50% chocolate.
Ben:We live in America where we can think whatever we wanna think. If we wanna think hot chocolate can be frozen, hot chocolate can be frozen. If it can't, it can't. Who knows? Who cares?
Caleb:So that's
Ashley:why so this is simply
Ashley:definitely. Your
Ben:You do.
Ashley:Controversy with this is why Dunkin changed the name from a frozen hot chocolate to a frozen chocolate latte.
Kyle:A frozen? No. It's frozen chocolate.
Ashley:It's chocolate latte. Okay.
Ben:Because they are a business and they are trying to please their customers. If they have customers complaining, they're gonna
Kyle:And if you go Please their customers.
Ashley:Then you go to Starbucks
Ben:Okay.
Ashley:You go to Starbucks and you say, I want a chocolate frappuccino. You don't say, I wanna talk Okay. Cold hot chocolate.
Kyle:Okay. So hear me out. Right? What if they they have all the ingredients of a hot chocolate, but but it they they never make it warm? It's just chilled right away.
Caleb:It's still hot chocolate.
Kyle:It's not
Ashley:Listen listen listen. Let me ask
Kyle:you this.
Ben:Chocolate and melted
Ashley:chocolate. Nursing home.
Kyle:To play devil's advocate, I would consider it a cold or a frozen hot chocolate if the drink was frozen, literally in the freezer, but with something spicy in it. I would consider that a frozen hot chocolate, but if it never reaches the temperature of hot Temperature. And it is and it is just frozen But
Ben:a hot chocolate is melted chocolate. So they take melted chocolate, mix it in with, like, ice, another ingredient just make a hot chocolate. So the chocolate was melted, but now it's mixed in with the other ingredients.
Kyle:So it's frozen chocolate. Frozen hot chocolate.
Ashley:Frozen So listen.
Ben:Because it was melted.
Ashley:Nursing home, we wouldn't do, like, hot chocolate packets. We literally would take chocolate milk from the fridge, pour it into a coffee cup, put it in the microwave, and that was hot chocolate. So how you were saying that it was just chocolate milk. Chocolate milk is cold, but now I made it hot chocolate.
Kyle:It's warm chocolate
Ben:milk. No. Okay. No. Because it's hot.
Ashley:Like, it's steaming. So you made chocolate milk pack. Blew on it because it was hot. So
Ben:take a chocolate milk package What
Kyle:if it wasn't chocolate milk that you heated up? What if it was just regular white 2% milk? Then it's just warm milk. No. Then it would just Just
Ashley:warm chocolate milk? It would be hot milk.
Kyle:Okay. People call it people
Ashley:use hot milk.
Ben:It becomes ice cream.
Ashley:It's different.
Kyle:Yeah. Only because ice cream the freezer. No.
Ashley:You have to have other ingredients.
Ben:Yes.
Kyle:It's just not milk.
Caleb:To. Yes. It's not milk. It's cream, but still.
Ben:Then you get a It's
Ashley:not white milk.
Ben:You get a white milk popsicle if you put it straight
Kyle:in the freezer.
Caleb:Breast milk. It's still different.
Kyle:Let's say you heat up breast milk. What is it then?
Ashley:Breast milk.
Kyle:And if you freeze breast milk, what is it then? Breast milk. Wow. Ain't that weird how the milk stays milked? Yes.
Kyle:It's not hot or cold. Ain't that fucking wild?
Ashley:But then how are you because breast milk can be eaten because
Kyle:it's milk. It's it's straight from the tea.
Ashley:It can be eaten. It can be drank. It there's a lot of different variations of breast milk that you can use.
Kyle:Right.
Ashley:Like, to differentiate it saying, oh, it's hot breast milk, that you don't need to. There's no point in it. The reason why you're putting a adjective in front of the subject is to identify what it is. You don't have to do that.
Caleb:I don't like the double entendre, that frozen hooked harclot.
Kyle:Yeah. Because it Bring. It contradicts itself.
Ashley:But you hear frozen first and you know that it's going to be associated with the taste of the hot chocolate that you get.
Caleb:I could even give you this.
Ben:Because hot chocolate tastes different than normal chocolate.
Ashley:Correct.
Kyle:There's different tastes. I can eat Listen. I can
Ben:eat it. Warm.
Ashley:I can get down with some hot chocolate, but I will not drink chocolate milk.
Caleb:I would give you this. I
Ben:will not drink this.
Caleb:If you took ice cream and you poured some steaming hot chocolate into it
Kyle:Like hot butter.
Caleb:Mixed it in, then we might be onto something calling something frozen hot chocolate.
Ashley:What's the difference? Because because you know damn well. Because he fucking does it.
Kyle:Just chilled.
Ashley:Because he fucking does it is when he gets that chocolate syrup on top, that motherfucker is mixing it all in. So it is a frozen
Kyle:No. It's not. It's chocolate ice cream.
Ben:But okay. So how do they make the the hot frozen hot chocolate? They take it, make hot chocolate, then put it in the slushie machine
Caleb:I doubt freeze it. I doubt they're making
Kyle:hot chocolate.
Ashley:More a
Kyle:hot it's no longer hot chocolate. Yes. It is. It's It
Ben:is a frozen hot chocolate. That's frozen.
Ashley:Original state was hot chocolate.
Ben:Yes.
Ashley:Now you're adding
Kyle:Now you're taking away the hot.
Ashley:Now you're at no. You're adding another ingredient into it. So now you have to identify both ingredients.
Kyle:You're making it cold.
Ashley:Just like you're saying breast milk. It's coming from the breast and it's a form of milk.
Kyle:Cold isn't an ingredient.
Ben:You're right. It's not a good, but you're still
Kyle:factored into it.
Ashley:An identifier. Yes.
Ben:Right. It's
Kyle:it's somebody who's, like, hot chocolate. Identifies it a little hot.
Ashley:That's why some people say, like, oh, I want cold orange juice. Because nobody wants no fucking
Kyle:because if someone asks for hot orange juice, they would no longer be
Ashley:on this planet. My god.
Ben:You have point there.
Ashley:Or, like, water. People say, I want iced water. Why do you have to do that? Water is water in that state.
Ashley:I don't answer water. I don't want water.
Ben:When you
Ashley:say, oh, I want a chocolate drink and somebody's like, well, yeah. Do you want it hot or cold? What's the difference? You know, you're identifying what you want.
Ben:Because like I said, if you take chocolate and freeze it or you take hot chocolate and freeze it, you're gonna get 2 different taste. They taste different.
Kyle:Yes. Well, because one's a frozen chocolate, the other one's a
Ben:hot chocolate. No. I'm saying if you take chocolate and put it hot and freeze it, you're gonna get different tastes.
Kyle:It's no longer hot if it's frozen.
Ben:Yeah. But it's not just chocolate.
Kyle:It's frozen chocolate.
Ben:You no. You associate that hot chocolate flavor.
Kyle:I associate hot chocolate with
Ben:the temperature. No. Listen. No.
Kyle:You know what
Ashley:I hear somebody say, can I have some frozen chocolate? I'm gonna think about, like
Ben:I'll give them a
Kyle:hot candy bar out
Ben:of the freezer. Fright.
Kyle:Yeah. Exactly.
Ashley:That's why you have that liquid. Wine. I want a frozen hot chocolate,
Kyle:but it's not hot.
Caleb:Here's the thing though too. There's a a wide variety of different hot chocolates out there too. Yeah. You can agree with that because grandma makes hot chocolate different than probably me. Because I grabbed the packet.
Kyle:And the spicy chocolate that comes out my ass is spicy chocolate.
Caleb:But so the flavor is not always gonna be the same.
Kyle:No. It's
Ben:not the exact same, but it is still around the same flavor.
Kyle:No. Exactly.
Ashley:Because the
Caleb:flavors can vary so greatly.
Kyle:Right. But temperature can affect the flavor too.
Caleb:It's what I'm getting. And and and chocolate alone has many different flavors itself too.
Ben:Hot chocolate. Everybody has that flavor in mind that they imagine. Right. It's different than a
Kyle:the temperature.
Ben:It's different than a, melted candy bar. There's different taste. Hot chocolate is a name of a certain taste.
Kyle:With the with the temperature, yes. No. No. No. No.
Kyle:Not the temperature.
Ben:It's the name of the taste that you associate with hot chocolate.
Ashley:No.
Caleb:No. Yes. Yes. No.
Kyle:I associate the temperature with it too.
Caleb:Yeah. If I hear
Ben:frozen hot chocolate,
Caleb:the hot part gets eliminated. No. Because If
Kyle:you just mix in the cocoa powder and milk without heating it up, I would just call it, like, a chocolate drink because it's not hot.
Ben:But in hot chocolate, it's more just cocoa powders, other ingredients in there. There's marshmallows. There's this. There's that.
Caleb:Yeah. And this is the flavor you're associating with it in your brain. Right? In my brain, I think of my grandmother's hot chocolate. I don't think marshmallows and shit.
Caleb:We had
Kyle:a guy with a never frozen.
Caleb:We did a hot chocolate bar practically. But but so would it be
Kyle:the Okay. Wait.
Ben:Warm chocolate?
Kyle:Okay. Wait. Hear me out. Hear me out.
Caleb:It's hot chocolate.
Kyle:A popsicle is normally frozen. Right? Yep. If you let it melt. Is it still a popsicle?
Ben:It's a melted popsicle.
Kyle:It's melted. Exactly.
Ben:But the word popsicle, which you associate with frozen things, is still in there.
Ashley:Because even, you know, those, popsicles that are not in the freezer at Walmart, they're in that that
Caleb:I call those freezies.
Ashley:Okay. Great. Your item is fine.
Ben:It doesn't make It's freezing.
Kyle:They're not
Ashley:even frozen.
Kyle:A hot chocolate. But it's still good enough if it's
Ashley:a freezer.
Ashley:I don't
Caleb:eat those if they're not frozen. I don't just take the drink and go
Kyle:Okay. Hot chocolate is meant to be hot, not no. Yes. Not necessarily. Yes.
Kyle:No. It
Ben:is. I'm sticking with hot chocolate is a taste Listen. Associate something.
Ben:Because
Caleb:No. Because a hot chocolate is something I wanna sit with on my porch when it's wintertime and snowing. A frozen hot chocolate? I don't wanna be doing none of that.
Ben:So So then
Ashley:what are you gonna drink in the summertime for all the California people? Oh, okay. Always hot
Caleb:all the time. Milkshake.
Ashley:Ew.
Caleb:That's all a fucking frozen hot chocolate is.
Ben:Like I said, I would never drink frozen chocolate because I don't like a lot of chocolate flavor. A frozen hot chocolate doesn't necessarily have a lot of flavor because it usually has something else in there, making it like milk or something else that dyes that chocolate flavor down.
Kyle:What do you
Ben:how do you think that chocolate's made?
Ben:Yeah. But there's milk there's milk in there along with the chocolate, so it brings the chocolate taste down so it makes it more of a creamier taste.
Ben:How do you think
Caleb:a milkshake is made? Right.
Ben:And then there's milk in there to bring the chocolate flavor down as much because you're off
Kyle:What do
Caleb:you think hot chocolate's made from?
Ben:Yes. Chocolate and milk. But the milk, like I said, dies of chocolate taste
Kyle:like some. Take heavy It dilutes it. Take cream. Right?
Caleb:Oh, hold on. You just said the same thing about both things.
Kyle:Listen.
Caleb:That the milk dilutes the chocolate. Right?
Kyle:So in a half
Caleb:So then a chocolate milkshake is just a fucking frozen hot chocolate by that logic. No. Yes. Yes. Because if the milk just dilutes the chocolate flavor
Ashley:Okay. Okay. Okay. Listen. Okay.
Ben:Oh, here you go.
Kyle:You take cream and you freeze it. Yep. What is it called?
Ben:Cream. Frozen cream.
Kyle:No. No. Ice cream. No.
Ben:You that's
Kyle:all ice cream in. After all
Caleb:ice cream.
Ben:Yes. Yes.
Caleb:The additional flavorings are what makes it flavorful.
Ashley:Yeah.
Ashley:You don't
Caleb:get no stress.
Kyle:Let's say the ice cream melts. What is it?
Ashley:Ice cream.
Kyle:It's melted ice cream. It's melted ice cream. It's no longer iced.
Ben:Yeah. But okay. Why is it called ice? Why is the ice is
Ben:all good? It's because it's freezing.
Caleb:It's called cream.
Ben:Because it's cold.
Caleb:But it's melted. What if it melted? It's just cream.
Ben:What you just said proves us right.
Ben:No. Yes. Because you have
Ben:the ice part in there.
Kyle:Yes. Yes. Because it's supposed to
Ben:be ice cream.
Ashley:But you're saying melted ice cream.
Caleb:It's chocolate.
Ashley:It's no longer ice.
Ben:It's the same thing as frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:Did I say melted ice cream?
Ashley:Yes. You did.
Kyle:Oh, did I
Ben:read? Yes. Exactly.
Kyle:So the shit is the same just in
Ashley:your mind.
Ben:It's melted
Ashley:cream. No. Without Caleb saying it,
Caleb:you're absolutely right. I don't even say it's melted cream. If you take cream and you freeze it, it's ice cream. No. If you melt the ice cream and it becomes
Ben:I think it's like only 1, Ashley. Kyle, just prove us right.
Kyle:Okay. Listen.
Ashley:So why is it called a hot tub?
Kyle:Listen. You take an egg. Right? Yep. Oh my god.
Kyle:Crack it into a pan, and you scramble it, and you cook it. Okay. What is that called?
Ben:A fried egg.
Ashley:Oh, you scramble it? It's a scrambled egg. Because you're identifying what it is.
Kyle:Correct. So let's say you unscramble it.
Ashley:You can't fucking do that.
Kyle:And and and and you revert it back to what it was prior to the scrambled egg.
Ashley:This has no relevance to it.
Kyle:What is it? You can't unscramble it. What is it? What is it?
Ben:An unscrambled egg.
Kyle:It's it's just a regular
Ben:fucking egg.
Kyle:It's a regular fucking egg. If you take an egg and unscramble
Ben:it, it's an unscrambled egg.
Ashley:Exactly. You can you can you can over scramble an egg and you can under scramble an egg.
Kyle:Under scramble is called overeating.
Caleb:No. No.
Ashley:No. No.
Kyle:What the fuck is under
Ashley:scramble? Is runny.
Caleb:Yeah. It's runny. Runny.
Ashley:Exactly. You're identifying what it is.
Kyle:Yeah. So hot chocolate's hot chocolate. You can't freeze a hot chocolate or it's no longer hot.
Ben:So it's a frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:It's a frozen chocolate.
Caleb:You were gonna say something about a hot tub. So let me just ask this to you. Okay? So you take a hot tub. Right?
Kyle:And you
Caleb:turn it on. Mhmm. That's called a? Hot tub. Okay.
Caleb:Now if you turn it off and the water just goes to room temperature, what would you call that?
Ashley:A hot tub.
Caleb:We call it a pool.
Ashley:A pool. Oh, it's just
Ben:a surprise. Yes.
Ashley:Okay. Now if I throw
Caleb:ice into if I throw ice into it, what do you call that? It's a
Ben:hot tub with
Caleb:ice That's an ice bath.
Kyle:Ice bath.
Ashley:That is an ice bath.
Ben:No. But if you think
Ben:of that
Ashley:if I turn the heaters back on and
Caleb:it gets hot again, what is that?
Kyle:It's not a hot tub. It's not a hot ice pool. Okay?
Ashley:Nobody said anything about a pool.
Caleb:I did.
Kyle:But hot tub Listen.
Ashley:Ben and I would not turn the pool the hot tub on in the summer, and we would still say, mom, can we go on the hot tub? Because we're identifying what it is. If we were like, mom, can we go in the pool? And we didn't have our pool yet. She'd be like, I don't know what fucking pool you're talking about.
Kyle:Right.
Ben:Or if
Ashley:we said, can we go on the room temperature tub? She go and look at us like we're dumbasses. I'm like
Ben:Because it's a hot tub.
Ashley:Yes.
Ben:Just because you change the temperature of something does not make it different.
Caleb:If I throw ice in it though, it becomes an ice
Ben:bath. Wait. But you It
Caleb:does not become a ice hot tub.
Kyle:No. It just becomes a hot tub.
Ben:A hot tub with ice in it.
Caleb:No. It doesn't.
Ashley:The ice melt
Ben:becomes an ice bath.
Kyle:No. Oh my god.
Ashley:No. Okay.
Ben:Well, this doesn't make any conversations, guys. It's nice showing you.
Kyle:Just candle. Just candle. This candle. Right? Let's say all the wax melts and it's liquid.
Kyle:What is that?
Ashley:It's a wax. Wax.
Kyle:Okay. Let's say the wax hardens.
Ashley:It's wax.
Kyle:It's a candle against
Ben:No. A
Kyle:candle is always a candle. Kyle. Kyle. But the wax is still
Caleb:in there. Kyle.
Ashley:And though Kyle.
Kyle:Look at me. No. No. Do not try safe in that.
Ashley:No. No. No.
Kyle:No. No. No.
Ashley:No. No. No. Wait.
Kyle:Because we made candles out of wet wax and it hard to make a candle.
Ashley:But it's a candle even in its wet form.
Caleb:Hold on.
Kyle:You said it was wax.
Caleb:Hold on. Don't Kyle. My god. Kyle, look at me in the eyes real quick. K?
Caleb:That was a very dumb argument.
Kyle:You're a very dumb argument. Face is a dumb argument.
Ashley:Because a a candle is a candle with hard wax, with wet wax. It's still on fire, diffusing smells. It does not matter if it's wet or hard. It's still doing the same exact job.
Kyle:Did you ever go to Mac town for a field trip?
Caleb:The bar.
Kyle:No. The the the settlement. Mac town, it was called.
Ashley:Weird.
Kyle:I think it was in Rockton or something. Wisconsin?
Caleb:Rockton or Rockton. Remember that.
Kyle:There there is a thing where they they had us make a candle. So we took a wick.
Ben:But a candle
Kyle:We took a wick. We put it in wax. Put it in cold water, and it hardened the wax.
Ben:Right.
Kyle:And we kept doing it to make the candle thicker. So a candle
Ben:is the ingredients put together. Because separate, it's a wick and a and a wax. You put them together to make a candle. So if it's no matter what form
Kyle:it's in,
Ben:it's still a candle. A candle's a candle. Because it's a
Kyle:Whose side are you on, Caleb?
Caleb:I am out of yours with the frozen wet chocolate.
Kyle:It's the same thing
Ben:with a candle.
Ben:No. Again, because of the ingredients What's got a
Kyle:frozen candle? Is it frozen wax? Because it's hard. Yeah. I think not.
Kyle:Kyle.
Ben:Okay. It's a
Kyle:fucking candle.
Ashley:You can't put a candle in the freezer. Correct.
Kyle:And it's still a fucking candle.
Ben:It ain't frozen. Exactly. No matter what form it is.
Kyle:You can't
Ben:put a
Kyle:hot chocolate in the freezer
Ben:and call
Ashley:it a
Ben:hot chocolate. That's what you can It's frozen chocolate. How can I put it? It is not hot. It is frozen.
Kyle:How can I put a candle
Ashley:into the freezer and not call it a frozen candle?
Caleb:Okay. Now that because
Ben:it ain't Yes. It is.
Caleb:No. That I'm gonna disagree with you on. But I'm not gonna just because I put it in the freezer. Saying.
Ben:No matter
Caleb:Doesn't mean I'm gonna call it frozen. No matter
Kyle:I'm out of cider.
Caleb:I'm out of cider for this house.
Ben:No. Kyle, no matter what form it's in, it's still a candle. So matter what form a hot chocolate's in, it's still a hot chocolate.
Kyle:So the wax so the melted wax is a candle?
Ben:Yes. Yes.
Kyle:It's melted wax.
Caleb:No. It's not. Kyle. Kyle. Kyle.
Caleb:Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. Look at me. Listen.
Ashley:Listen. Listen.
Caleb:Listen. Okay. If you walk into a house and you smell a burning candle, right? You say, oh, do you have a candle burning? You don't say,
Kyle:oh, do you have wax? Do you have hot wax?
Ben:Exactly. Do you have hot wax? No. Because I do you have a do you have a candle
Ashley:burning? That.
Ben:It's still it's still a candle.
Kyle:A candle with a wick knobs. In and of itself with the hard wax is a candle.
Ben:It is
Kyle:this in and of itself,
Ben:no matter what the candle form that is,
Ashley:it's a candle.
Kyle:All wax with just
Caleb:a Kyle.
Kyle:It is fucking wax.
Ben:A silk candle.
Ben:It is
Caleb:a wick.
Kyle:A wick.
Caleb:A wick in the wax, that makes candle. Yes. You take the wick out, then you've got just wax.
Kyle:Right. But you leave the wick in, it is a candle.
Ben:Exactly. Whether
Ashley:it is burning or not. If there is melted wax. Whether it is burning or not.
Kyle:If there is melted wax, there is no no longer a candle. It is just fucking wax. It's melted wax.
Ashley:Yes. And if you
Caleb:let if you take the wick out and you let it harden, it is still just wax.
Kyle:The it's the ingredients of a fucking candle.
Ben:Can we all
Kyle:Except 4 minus the whip. Hey.
Ben:Can we all take a breather and sit back down or relax
Ashley:after that?
Ben:Stop yelling into the mics.
Kyle:Because a frozen hot
Caleb:chocolate entire episode is a headphone warning. Okay?
Kyle:Frozen hot chocolate is it it it is not a hot chocolate. It is a frozen chocolate.
Ben:Yes. But no matter what form the candle's in, as long as those 2 ingredients are there, it's a candle. So it seems hot chocolate. As long as those ingredients are there, it's a frozen hot chocolate or a hot chocolate. It's still a hot chocolate no matter what form it's in.
Caleb:And this is where we're gonna get back to the original form of debate. And with them, I do not agree with you. Mariel. Because there are so many different varying forms of hot chocolate, ways to make hot chocolate. Because honestly, I'm sure some people take
Ben:no more money. Candles too. Correct.
Caleb:No. Because the the the candle, you still need the the wax and the wick. You can't have the candle without the wax
Ben:in the wick.
Caleb:Different I'm just different flavorings.
Ben:Well, there's beeswax. There's the normal I don't know what kind of wax that is. You get over there, Kyle. Ashley, what type of what kind of candle wax is it?
Caleb:I'll look at myself.
Ashley:Pee. You have soy. You can have beeswax. You can have, like, coconuts. Peeing?
Ashley:What?
Kyle:You just said you were peeing. Yeah.
Ashley:That's what I thought. I heard that too.
Kyle:You'll be like, I'm peeing. There's beeswax. There's
Ashley:I have to pee. Oh.
Kyle:I can pull my nose. God. Hang on. I'm still taking a break.
Caleb:We're gonna take a quick break. Ben, why don't you, tell us a little bit about Martin 3 d designs real quick?
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Caleb:Thank you, Ben, for, letting us know about Martin 3d Designs. And everyone, go ahead and go to www.martin3ddesigns dot com.
Kyle:Forward slash it is a frozen chocolate.
Caleb:No. Top part of the link.
Kyle:Do not do not do it.
Caleb:Can we can we add that to your website? Just do, like, frozen hot frozen chocolate.
Ben:That'd be pretty fun.
Kyle:You almost said it?
Caleb:I almost said it. Frozen chocolate, you know, like Hot chocolate. Slash frozen chocolate, and then you can make, like,
Ben:There you go.
Caleb:You can make,
Kyle:Oh,
Ben:I'll make I'll make 2 little boxes. Like, this box I'm making, one says frozen hot chocolate, one says hot chocolate. Let's see if it sells more.
Caleb:Yes. I like that. Should we do that?
Ben:I'll look into it. We'll see. Okay. I'll let you know what next podcast
Kyle:we'll do. Next
Caleb:podcast, well, you know, it might be a
Ben:Can I say one thing? This debate's gotten so debate so intense. There's 3 of us standing up out.
Kyle:Yes. Out of the 4 of us.
Caleb:Now that is a regularly scheduled program.
Ben:It's a frozen chocolate. It is
Caleb:frozen chocolate.
Kyle:No. It's not. Like, you said
Ben:with the candle, those ingredients are there. It's a candle no matter what. So those ingredients are there. It's a frozen hot chocolate. It's a hot chocolate.
Ben:It's a warm Okay.
Ben:The hot chocolate.
Caleb:Here's the
Ashley:thing with
Caleb:the candle and
Ben:the what?
Caleb:Here's the thing with the the candle or the frozen chocolate debate. Okay? And that is that a candle is a thing. Right? Like, with one can't be like, with the wick and the wax, one can't be the other with one can't be a candle without the other.
Caleb:Right? Right. Okay.
Kyle:Okay, Ben.
Caleb:Getting back out of the original topic of conversation. Right. Frozen hot chocolate versus frozen chocolate. Right?
Kyle:Wait. Okay. They can be What makes a car a car?
Ben:It has an engine, a body, and 4 wheels.
Kyle:It And a transmission It is only considered a car when it is fully put together. Right?
Caleb:Right.
Kyle:You take all the pieces off, it's no longer a car.
Ben:But again, a frozen a hot chocolate has a different taste than just melted chocolate. There is a different taste.
Kyle:It's a frozen chocolate.
Caleb:Okay. Hold on. Yes. No. I will give you that if I just melt a a Hershey's bar
Kyle:Mhmm.
Caleb:It's going to have a different texture.
Ben:Taste too. Not taste. Yes.
Caleb:Not taste.
Ben:There is a different taste there.
Kyle:It's chill one's chilled, one's not.
Ben:Yes. But a hot chocolate, you usually put milk in it or water or something.
Kyle:So then
Caleb:you got chocolate milk.
Ben:Right. There's milk added to it.
Caleb:So you've made chocolate milk.
Kyle:Yes. Right. Without heat it up.
Caleb:Okay. Okay. Go on. You you act like you were
Ashley:gonna you're gonna go on and
Caleb:you don't go on. Okay.
Ben:But as you said, there's more ingredients than just chocolate and
Caleb:milk usually. There's usually other ingredients Usually. Yeah. But I'm sure hold on. Oh, he's gonna grab
Ben:a hot chocolate packet now, isn't he?
Ashley:Chocolate milk.
Caleb:Chocolate milk. He had
Kyle:lunch on sweet dial.
Caleb:Ingredients in a, a chocolate milk. K? Whole milk Is that
Ben:from quick drink?
Caleb:Sugar, cocoa, processed oh, I'm sorry. The cocoa is processed
Kyle:with The first four are the main ones.
Caleb:I can't read what it says. LG, I think it is. That's weird. But then there's dextrose, cornstarch, salt, vanilla. Guess what else?
Caleb:Guess what else is in hot chocolate?
Ben:K. Ready for what's in hot chocolate?
Kyle:He just read it.
Caleb:Yeah. I just read it.
Ashley:Oh. Because if I heat this up, this becomes all chocolate.
Ben:Cocoa powder, sugar, milk, salt, vanilla extract, chocolate shavings, cornstarch, maple syrup, half and half water. I didn't hear no half and half.
Kyle:I didn't hear no half and half.
Ashley:I didn't hear
Caleb:no half and half. I
Ben:didn't hear no
Caleb:half and half. Recipe. Kyle. If I heat that chocolate milk up.
Kyle:It's a hot chocolate.
Caleb:Thank you. Now if I freeze it Is it frozen hot chocolate? No. It's
Kyle:a frozen chocolate. No.
Caleb:Thank you. Because if I heat that milk up, it becomes hot chocolate. If I freeze that chocolate milk from the same state, it just becomes
Ben:frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:No. No. Because it is no longer hot.
Ben:But again, there's different ingredients. I'm talking off with a different taste.
Kyle:Chocolate milk is not supposed to be hot.
Ben:Hot chocolate has a distinct taste and milk and melted chocolate. Yeah. See what you do. So you warm a chocolate up. You call it melted chocolate, not hot chocolate.
Caleb:If I take a candy bar and I melt it, yes. It's melted chocolate. Okay?
Kyle:Mhmm. If it becomes solid again.
Caleb:If it becomes solid, it's a chocolate bar.
Ben:That's stiffness. We're talking about just simply a chocolate bar that was melted and reheated.
Kyle:What? Actually
Caleb:And now you're apparently talking about hot chocolate that's being cooled.
Kyle:So does he debate?
Ben:It's 2 against 1 right now. He's gonna sit there and not be part of
Caleb:the What are you doing?
Ashley:What do you mean
Ashley:what am I doing?
Caleb:What are you doing? You're not
Kyle:She's not debating, which means that we win 2 against 1. Mhmm.
Ben:Ashley. It
Kyle:seems the frozen chocolate is
Ben:our debate or letting our side fall down. Aaron will be very disappointed in you.
Kyle:The frozen chocolate is declared the winner in 3.
Ben:We never did shout Aaron now for 2. Bringing the 1.
Caleb:Frozen chocolate. No.
Ashley:Whoo. Hell, frozen chocolate. Chocolate.
Kyle:Night.
Ben:Well, so, apparently, now if you vote for a fro for frozen chocolate, you're a Nazi. That's what these two are doing. So if you don't wanna be a Nazi, it's a frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:Because regular, like, chocolate milk is just the fewer. No.
Caleb:Okay. So if I have chocolate milk. Right?
Ben:Yes. We've done this about 10 different times. Bring a
Caleb:different point
Ben:bring a different point up.
Caleb:I'm just saying if I have chocolate milk, it's chocolate milk. Right? If it's from a a cooled standpoint, but not quite frozen to the fridge. Right? It's chocolate milk.
Caleb:If I heat it up, it becomes hot chocolate. And if I put it in the freezer, it becomes frozen hot chocolate. Frozen chocolate milk.
Ben:But, again, if you take it from hot to cold, it's frozen hot chocolate.
Kyle:You have all the You have all the ingredients
Ashley:to make base
Caleb:state is still the same.
Kyle:You have all the ingredients to build your truck. If you take one wheel off, it is still a truck. Right? Okay. At which point of taking all the ingredients out, is it no longer considered a truck?
Kyle:So if you have a wheel, it's considered a wheel. Right? Just a wheel. Right. Wait.
Caleb:Finish this one then I have a perfect one. Okay.
Ben:A truck if you have the frame, it's a stick to your truck because of the frame. The ingredient
Kyle:is what makes it a truck.
Ben:Yes. But so If the frame wasn't there, it
Kyle:wouldn't be a fucking truck.
Ben:If it's give me a second. Ashley. What?
Kyle:It's 2 as 1. I'm trying to figure this out. I need no help at all.
Ashley:Running. Exactly.
Caleb:Hold on. No. I'm not giving Kyle any help in this debate. These this is YouTube. I'll go with Ashley next.
Kyle:Okay.
Ben:But it's still different because it's food and you can't taste a truck. That's the thing. Because I'm saying the difference between that is a taste wise. Melted warm hot chocolate is warm.
Ashley:A wheel on a on a car is the same wheel as another one. It's the brand that is different. I the identifier is different.
Kyle:What's between you and Caleb?
Ashley:My Yeah.
Ben:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's
Kyle:between you and Caleb. K. Move on
Ben:up because me and you are never gonna agree on this. Let's move on to them and see what their date is.
Ben:You guys you guys
Kyle:are You
Ben:guys gotta bring different debates into it.
Caleb:I have a doomed debate for this. Okay?
Ashley:Okay.
Caleb:K. If I were to go to Walmart or Woodman's or whatever grocery store I shop at. Right?
Ashley:K.
Caleb:And I go to the frozen section.
Kyle:K.
Caleb:K. And I pick up a pie. Yep. What's the label on it?
Ashley:It's a frozen pie.
Caleb:Yes. What happens when I bake it?
Ashley:It just becomes a pie because it's no longer frozen.
Kyle:It's not a hot frozen pie. It's a baked pie.
Ashley:It's not a hot
Caleb:or yeah.
Ashley:It's not a hot
Kyle:frozen pie? What? Exactly.
Caleb:What?
Kyle:Yeah. No.
Caleb:Come at me.
Kyle:Because What do
Ashley:you got to say for that?
Kyle:And if you freeze it again, what is it? If no. If your baked
Ben:pipe is a frozen pie baked pie. Because it's baked.
Ashley:Yeah. It's a baked Exactly.
Ben:Yes. You can eat frozen.
Ashley:It doesn't matter.
Ashley:It's a baked, refrozen pie.
Ben:No. Okay.
Ben:It does. So the problem That's
Kyle:why you started laughing. They're different Sounds different.
Ben:Things are classified as different things in certain ways. Okay? Hot chocolate is a flavor.
Kyle:Mhmm.
Ben:A flavor.
Kyle:It's a temperature.
Caleb:It's a temperature.
Ben:No. It's a flavor.
Kyle:It's a it would only be a flavor if there was something spicy in it. No. Yes. No.
Caleb:Because if we're talking about flavors, then hot is spicy. We're talking about temperature. What gives top chocolate its name is the temperature.
Kyle:Exactly.
Caleb:In the modern day, in the modern day, we're not talking about the 18 fucking 100.
Ben:Yeah. Right.
Caleb:When they put fucking cayenne in it.
Ben:So Yeah. If if I took a glass of milk or chocolate milk, warmed it up, and I took a hot chocolate packet and mix it, you wouldn't be able to tell a difference you're telling me?
Ben:If I
Caleb:took what you're telling me. If if I
Ben:if you did what? If I took hot or chocolate milk, warmed it up, and I took hot made hot chocolate, you're not giving me a tell the difference between 2? Yes. You will because hot chocolate has a distinct taste. If I freeze chocolate milk and I freeze hot chocolate, you will be able to tell the difference of which is which because they are different.
Caleb:On the next episode
Kyle:Ben, is is water wet?
Caleb:We're not getting into that one. On the next episode, I am freezing chocolate milk, and I will handpick this chocolate milk. And y'all know I love my fucking chocolate milk. I will handpick Yeah. We can tell.
Caleb:The chocolate milk.
Ben:We can tell.
Caleb:Fuck you. And I'm gonna freeze hot chocolate, and I'm gonna have you taste it. And I'm gonna have you pick out which one is hot chocolate and which one is just frozen chocolate milk.
Ben:Okay. So how do I know that just not you didn't just do freeze 2 2 of the same things?
Caleb:What do you mean?
Ben:Because it's How am I gonna know that
Ashley:you didn't
Ben:freeze to, chocolate milk?
Ben:I'm a
Caleb:man of my word. I'll think he promised it with Kyle. We know how Kyle makes his don't even pick a promise with you, but you know how Kyle takes his
Kyle:Pinky promises.
Caleb:Makes his this keeps his word with Pinky promises.
Ben:I guess we can try us, but, oh, hey. Whatever you say.
Caleb:I promise you. Prince. I promise you.
Ben:But like I said, and so I'm classified as this, I classify hot chocolate as a specific taste. Everybody does.
Caleb:Sure. From what you grew up with.
Ben:So if you yes. You're right. So if you have a pop tart that is hot chocolate flavored when it's cold, is it just a chocolate pop tart?
Kyle:It's a pop tart.
Ben:No. But I'm saying, if it's if it so if you're classifying the flavor of it
Ben:Mhmm.
Ben:If you have a hot chocolate pop tart, when it's not in the toasted, is it just a chocolate pop tart?
Kyle:It's not
Ashley:Or is it a hot
Ben:chocolate pop tart?
Caleb:I feel like with something like that.
Kyle:But I usually Yeah.
Caleb:Okay. It
Kyle:doesn't matter. My pussy I usually put mine in the microwave.
Ashley:Right. But that doesn't make it a No.
Kyle:It's not a hot chocolate pop tart.
Ashley:No. But that doesn't make it a hot hot chocolate pop tart.
Kyle:Yeah. Because it's hot.
Caleb:But but when it's
Ben:I don't know
Ashley:why it's chocolate pop tart. When you buy
Kyle:when you you pull it
Ben:out of the package, right in the package, don't warm it up or do anything with it. It is a hot chocolate flavored pop tart.
Kyle:Same with the fucking pie. You buy a frozen pie. No. But You eat it up, it's baked.
Ben:You literally just prove my point. The hot chocolate's a flavor that you look for.
Kyle:Because it's not because that's not a chocolate.
Caleb:Have a hot chocolate. Oh, that's It's just an amazing marshmallow hot cocoa.
Kyle:Marshmallow hot cocoa.
Caleb:Which that is a specific flavor because that's marshmallow.
Kyle:Oh my god. Yeah. And it's cocoa. But it's
Ben:still hot. It's still a hot word there. So we're eating it cold. It's still a
Caleb:hot are meant to be eaten hot, though. Yeah. So that's Or cold. They're they're nope. They're meant to be eaten hot, and they're assuming
Kyle:I understand.
Caleb:That they're going to make it hot.
Ben:So you have M and M's that are hot hot chocolate.
Caleb:I would not eat a s'mores pot I don't know. Without warming it up.
Ashley:Sim Shady
Caleb:just seems wrong.
Kyle:Sim Shady's been on fire.
Ben:I've done it before.
Kyle:I wouldn't. Sim Shady's been on fire recently. Okay. That Eminem has been pretty fucking hot with his last album. So
Caleb:I think I think right now is a good time to cool down from this debate because it is, I think, very evident that then me and Kyle aren't gonna change you and Ashley's mind and
Kyle:Well well,
Caleb:you and Ashley aren't gonna change our mind.
Kyle:Against one most of the time. So I think we will be
Caleb:Don't be as if we want to. However however
Kyle:Let's put out a poll.
Ashley:I'm working.
Ben:You can work after.
Caleb:I would love Yeah. I'll do. I would love to hear all of our listeners' comments, questions, concerns.
Ben:We can put a question on We'll
Caleb:put a poll up and we want you to we want you to tell us
Ben:We could do it on Spotify.
Caleb:Right? This debate.
Kyle:And Discord will pop up to
Caleb:you and see us. No. Because I don't use Spotify anymore. I use something else.
Kyle:Let's do Discord.
Caleb:But Discord and on our social medias, we can Oh, yeah. Throw up
Ben:the What's our Discord? Kindling conversations? Yeah.
Caleb:You can get to it by going to kindling conversations.com/discord. Yeah. There you go. But we'll also throw it up on our social media as
Ben:an update. Throw it up on the website like a poll too?
Caleb:No. Unfortunately not. We're not quite that advanced.
Kyle:Oh, Jesus.
Ben:And we also wanna know if you like this debate podcast, so we should do another one.
Caleb:Well, let's get into that here in just a second. What I wanna know from our listeners, okay, I want your take on the frozen hot chocolate or frozen chocolate debate. Okay? I wanna hear your thoughts on why you think that you'd be a good guest to come in and debate with us in a 5 minute segment.
Kyle:Yeah. After the 5 minutes is over, you're gone. Getting kicked to the curb.
Caleb:You're out.
Ben:We can't get to you the debate.
Kyle:We can't if you're gone. You on for more than 5 minutes.
Caleb:We can continue the debate, but I think at this point, we're each beating a dead horse with each other. Right. So if you can bring if you think you can bring in fresh insight to either mine and
Kyle:Kyle facts.
Caleb:And I'd like to bring in 2 people if we can so that way we can have one on either side of the Or
Ben:if you have some of the other ladies debate about that's not political, we will gladly do that.
Caleb:Even if it's minorly political, but don't make it like Yeah. Don't make it like political.
Ben:None of us here
Caleb:are politicians and know really about lot of information that we should. We don't really have a platform. Right? To but if you wanna make it moderately political, minorly. Right.
Caleb:You know? Like, don't be afraid to let us know your suggestions. Just throw it in in our in our social medias. Social medias. Yep.
Ben:Comic TikTok.
Caleb:But being
Ben:that any of them.
Caleb:Yeah. Like Ben was saying earlier, we would love to know if you enjoyed this debate cast. We do apologize to all of our headphone users out there because
Ben:It got a
Caleb:little heated. It did get a little heated.
Ben:My sweatshirt came off.
Caleb:Yeah. It did. Yikes.
Kyle:Mine stayed on. You know you like it.
Caleb:Put your shirt down right now, fucker.
Kyle:Rob's just nipple on the
Caleb:Anyways, I think I don't know about you, Kyle. I don't know about you, Ben. And actually, you were working the entire time. Yeah. Yeah.
Caleb:But I had a lot of fun with this episode.
Kyle:And Yep. Glad to get excited about frozen hot chocolate. The next debate is, is water wet? No. We're not debating that.
Kyle:Yeah.
Ben:We're debating that. We have no word we have no knowledge to state
Kyle:that's water
Ben:is wet. It it is wet. I agree
Kyle:with you. Exactly.
Ben:Water is wet.
Caleb:So we need topics. Controversial ones that aren't super controversial.
Ben:That aren't water But, like,
Caleb:frozen hot chocolate versus frozen chocolate. We'd love to know your thoughts.
Kyle:What makes a baby a baby? No. That that that was
Ashley:I know.
Kyle:Yeah. That's real controversy.
Caleb:You wanna go you wanna go you wanna nose dive in the political? That's the one we do.
Ben:Yeah. Exactly.
Kyle:I I knew that would get Ashley to pipe up.
Caleb:You you want nose dive into political? I can get my cousin on this podcast real fucking quick, and he can make it political for us.
Kyle:Or That is true.
Ben:Maybe some other topics that may come up on the podcast already that may happen next couple episodes.
Kyle:Like Yeah. Is Caleb 10% straight or 10% gay? Who knows? What?
Ben:Yeah. No. It's it's it's Caleb 10% gay or is But
Kyle:I think we got it mixed around. Is he 90% straight, 10% gay, or 10% straight, 90% gay?
Caleb:Okay. I
Ben:Here's the thing I already got.
Caleb:Some fun episodes, and I think we've also got some, heartfelt more heartfelt, more heavy episodes coming up in the pipeline. I wouldn't get used to laughing all the time. I think, we do wanna give a good mix.
Ben:We have gotten
Caleb:we've got heartfelt. Me and Kyle both For sure. Cried. For sure. I didn't say
Kyle:you cry, though. I I got called out. Yeah. I moved my back.
Caleb:I almost did. I am just saying, though, like, we're not gonna keep this, as a rambling podcast anymore. Like, we were. We're actually gonna try to bring some substance to it.
Ben:Instead of just talking about 10,000,000 different topics in one
Caleb:However we're gonna stick with one topic. Debate cast was fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Kyle:And I
Caleb:think we definitely need to do more episodes like this.
Ben:But I wouldn't consider that a rambling cat podcast. I mean, in the podcast, we talk about a bunch of random events that happened or something
Kyle:like that.
Caleb:I think this debate cast, though, was fun, and we need to keep it going.
Kyle:Mhmm.
Caleb:Yeah. So, anything else you guys wanna add?
Ben:I don't think so. Please continue to support us. Share the podcast with anybody you know. We could use all the help we could you need. I'm Kyle.
Ashley:I'm Ashley.
Ben:I'm Ben.
Caleb:I'm Caleb.
Kyle:Aloha. And this has been the debate cast. This has
Ben:been the killing conversation debate cast.
Kyle:Toodles.
Ben:Deuces. Aloha.
Caleb:Adios.
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